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Pee Wee Kirkland: Rising Above the Rim

Why do you think NBA commentators sometimes refer to streetball in a derogatory manner when talking about certain players? We'd like to know what you think. Please leave your comments in this public guest book so we can share your thoughts with other visitors.

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willy Legagneur,jr
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5/4/00
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I BELIEVE STREET RECIEVES ITS NEGETIVE COMMENTS BECAUSE THE EUROPEANS DONT UNDERSTAND ITS UNORTHODOX NATURE.STREET BALL STARTED WITH KIDS USING GARBBAGE CANS ON GROUND LEVEL,BECAUSE CITY PARKS DIDNT HAVE RIMS OR WERE TO FAR TO GO TO.THESE KIDS PLAYED THE GAME W/ A LOT OF IMAGINATION THUS THEIR ABILITY TO DO SOME OF THE MAGICAL THING WE ALL SEE IN BASKETBALL TODAY.

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mistwaka-M41ars@aol.com
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11/16/01
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3:16:43 PM
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NBA commentators refer to streetball in derogatory manner because streetball is an art. Almost anyone can learn the technical basics of basketball. But visit any outdoor court in America where the best players meet to showcase their skills and you'll see movement, shooting and passing that can only be best described as art in motion.

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daballerfest
Date:
12/31/01
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12:22:40 PM
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i think maybe they are jealous they won't admit it but street ballers have a talent that so many people strive for and can't accomplish i respect those who streetball. you guys rock. keep it up. and also maybe they know that the people on the street better than some of the nba players

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Aaron
Date:
2/9/02
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12:27:42 PM
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Not Pure Basketball 90% Offense 10% Defense

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Rasheed Miller
Date:
3/21/02
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9:54:30 PM
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because a lot of commentators know that some of these guys who play "street ball" will give a lot of guys in the NBA the business. For Example look at what happened to "Mr. I am Better Than Michael Jordan Stackhouse" he got his ass bust in hunter college pro am tournament. And hell no he could never be better than Jordan. I don't care if Jordan is 50 years old.

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Richard C Taylor
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4/4/02
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11:38:34 AM
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Looking down on streetball is bull**** I believe streetball is just the tru players who love basketball and dont want the money look at people like PeeWee Kirkland and Richard jefferson in my book some of the greatest players of the game

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Big Dawg
Date:
4/14/02
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9:33:31 PM
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I believe it does not get the credibility it deserves because people do not understand the game of basketball as street players do. it all is in the hart. Basketball evolved the game of street ball, therefore it shall forever remain apart of the game itself. That is why players today illustate that rawness street ballers do.It basketball in its rarest,rawest form.I love this game!

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Rev. H. Bernard Branch
Date:
4/29/02
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11:27:35 AM
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I was a student at Norfolk State back in the late 60s when Pee Wee played there. He was a very agile player and I use to wonder how he dressed so well. All that does not matter now because I am so happy to know that God has a definite purpose in his life. I watch those Nike commercials and I think I see him. I wish you well Pee Wee and would love for you to come to speak at my church in NOrfolk...where I now pastor Rev. H. Bernard Branch 757-545-0462 I was known to be a streetballer at Hemingway Park in Norfolk. There were greater ones "Ace", "Big Fred" "Boo Boo" many of these guys never made it to college however, they worked hard and knew the game, it ought not to be a negative connotation, but a reference to some who worked hard to play and know the game

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pierre perry
Date:
4/29/02
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12:06:31 PM
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man pee wee kirkland is the best f*ckin basketball player ever how in the hell did he get to be a legend in two different games aint that some shit that is the mothaf*ckin man

r.i.p pierre 85-99

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christian
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5/9/02
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11:55:05 AM
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i believe that street ball gets negative feedback because europeans are generally threatened by the uptempo atheletic change and style. its an attitude that many cant deal with.street ball players play with game with style and grace that regular standard basketball cannot display, it allows kids to show their creativity on a whole new level, to advance moves and add grace and authority to them.in general street players are way more advanced than n.b.a players, and on the street courts their skills speak for themselves. a lot of pro players have been domianted on street courts and thats why streetplayers and certain street courts like the rutgers in harlem get respect from basketball players all over the world

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mlarrie74@yahoo.com
Date:
5/28/02
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12:40:26 PM
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I feel the reason why some NBA analyst refer to these derogatory statements. is because they feel in some way cheated. By not getting the same notoriety as these street ball legends.

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KPrater
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6/10/02
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2:00:14 PM
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Street ball doesn't get the credibility that it deserves, because you probably would still have the NBA segregated the way it was back in the 50s if it wasn't for streetball, commentators understand the wouldn't have a career if it wasn't for streetball, because there wouldn't be quite as many teams because there wouldn't be quite as many players, commentators like criticizing everyone else when they are no one else, look at Marv Albert. They just need material to talk about so they talk about streetball, back in the 50s no one watched the NBA because watching an all white sport is boring, that's why you have players taking all sorts of sports, we've taken basketball, football, baseball, golf, and are integrating hockey we've already started to take over soccer, if it wasn't people other than whites their wouldn't be nothing interesting, because whites are so plain. I BELIEVE STREET RECIEVES ITS NEGETIVE COMMENTS BECAUSE THE EUROPEANS DONT UNDERSTAND ITS UNORTHODOX NATURE. NBA commentators refer to streetball in derogatory manner because streetball is an art. Looking down on streetball is bull**** I believe streetball is just the tru players who love basketball and dont want the money

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Tony Paccione
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6/24/02
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5:34:58 PM
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It is because at one time "organized" basketball, that is, basketball played on the college, and pro level did not include blacks or "negros" as we were called then. So it was with disdain that when, and if, the situation came about that a "white" team was ever beat by a "bunch of black guys from the inner city" they would smirk and say "yeah they beat us but they were playin street ball" as if it didn't matter because we were like a bunch of monkees who just happened to throw the ball in the direction of the basket and "lo and behold" it went in!!! The epitome of this situation is when the famous southern coach with the championship team had the occasion to play a team that had an all black starting 5 (I don't remember who the interactial team was) and LOST. That was his biggest embarrasment in life and it tought America a lesson about RACE. There are alot of good "street ball" players sitting the bench because of coaches who still hold out these feelings toward blacks and basketball.

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Juci Jay
Date:
6/27/02
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4:17:28 PM
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Street ball sucz a$$

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Trevor
Date:
6/30/02
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12:49:07 AM
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I don't think SOME of the commentators know what they are even talking about when they talk about streetball.. streetball is where the true talent for the game of basketball actually show. for some reason i feel that these streetballers are getting a lot of love from the true players and that those jelous @$$ comentators never get.

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Sean
Date:
7/8/02
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12:58:52 AM
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On the and 1 mix tape vol 2( the worst one). at the end of the video Half man Half amazin challenged the best Nbap players (kobe,als,shaq,duncan,starbury,garnet etc) to play the best street ball playas( head ache,hot sauce,da future and half man half amazing etc.)I think this would be a great game. To playground style clash with NBA game. Everyone that knew anyhting about ball would watch the game. They should put on the allstar game weekend or somehting. fuck that other question. this should be brought through im out like shawn kemps hops

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Scotty 2 Hotty
Date:
7/17/02
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10:48:01 AM
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They consider it a minority. Most of the time we talk about minorities in a derogatory manner

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DeWayne
Date:
7/23/02
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2:04:09 PM
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White ignorance! White's don't like anything they can't corner the market on. Street basketball is controlled by Blacks, and this is how we should keep it.

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RawDawg
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7/28/02
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9:20:06 PM
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Streetball is a term whites made up to keep themselves from feeling inferior. For example, they(whites) say: We play professional ball, not that streetball. Truth: The majority of whites don't possess the qualities or toughness to play in the streets on a high level (pee-wee, the goat, etc.,.), so they have to label it as being beneath them. They tried to do the same thing with boxing(brawlers, street brawlers, etc..), but we proved to perform on every level and supercede their expectations. P.S. Juci Jay is a weak ass, spineless hater.

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westsidethug
Date:
8/6/02
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12:41:51 PM
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one of the key reasons why the "pros" frown upon the street is because the street player is unpredictable. Street moves, if they are good, are unpredictable. The coaches want to be able to have control over their players. In the pros you have to do textbook moves while the street player creates his own moves.

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Rice Krispies
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8/21/02
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11:45:13 AM
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Cause they haten on us we were the ones that started the game like Crossovers if it wasnt for us makn that MJ wouldnt have made his last shot with the Bulls Let them hate but 10 years from now thats wats gonna rule the NBA streetball Harlem NY Five Wise Men Forever

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reality check.
Date:
9/20/02
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3:16:56 PM
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the united states' recent performance in the world basketball tournament emphasised how easily the streetball mentality is when it is confronted by fundamentals and disciplined team play. streetballers are entertainers -- don't romanticize their abilities.

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maurice jackson
Date:
9/25/02
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10:53:36 AM
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i know for a fact when the n.b.a commentators talk down on street ball they jus mad at the fact no 1 likes the n.b.a no more i mean every lil kid no longer wants 2 be like mike or kobey now they want 2 be like skip 2 my lou or hot sauce or so many other catz that make it 2 the n.b.a but bottom line is the commentators need 2 "stop" down talking and when the next e.b.c tourn. roll around go watch a game or 2 and i bet they will be saying 2 their self kobey how.......

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jay
Date:
10/3/02
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6:26:00 PM
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what was number peewee kirkland when he played for the chicago bulls

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Jay Kerrigan
Date:
11/8/02
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3:55:50 AM
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I think streetball is tougher than regular basketball and people like the goat or pee wee are unbelievable players and should have been playin in the nba but i don't think any of them could have hung with jordan but other than that they were the best

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hit man
Date:
11/16/02
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7:57:49 PM
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i think the commentators are jealous.That they don't have the prevalege to see the street ball game in front of them .just because the ref respects the things the baller does doesn't make that sport less competative or exciting than the nba

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hit man
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11/16/02
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8:01:58 PM
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pee kirkland and the goat could have took jordan on and won cause i know jordans good but he didn't play old school were the goat was jumping to the top of the back board or when pee wee score 135 points in a preseason game or when Dr.j did his outstanding dunks that shocked everyone if micheal was round back then he would have had compitition

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St.Louis Baller
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12/13/02
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12:41:24 PM
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I think that NBA commentators and other "Professional" people hate on Streetball because of the fact that the so called "BEST" can't play at that level. Streetball is a tough game and not just anyone can go out there and just dominate like streetballers do. They hate on it because its not setting picks and passing the ball to the big man all the time, or in other words they hate on it because your not contained. The commentators our so full of s*** with the NBA that they fail to realize that streetball is the same game but with a lot more attitude and its a lot more advanced. There ain't to many NBA players that can even try to D Hot Sauce up. Streetball was there in the begining and because of that that's were the NBA came from. Don't hate the game cuz yall can't play it. (P.S. Juci Jay is a lil b****.

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Griffter
Date:
12/13/02
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5:37:33 PM
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I personally think streetball is an art, and only some people look at art for what it is. So the people who say $#!t about when they have no clue what its about

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janparris32@aol.com
Date:
1/7/03
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9:28:07 AM
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Hi Pee Wee this is Flenzy i read your Website and iam glad to see everything is cool with you. Reading what you wrote hit home to me too.I've been out of it for over 9 years now too. I've been working regular jobs and have a wife and an 11 year old son named Flenzy too. He,s a christmas baby. I'd like to hear from you . Maybe we could get together for lunch sometime. my e mail address is janparris32@aol.com Please get back to me I'd really like to see you in person.

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janparris32@aol.com.
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1/7/03
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9:37:23 AM
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Hi pee wee this is Flenzy. I read your website and like you I also came to realize that there;s more to life than fast money. I'n now married and have a beautiful son also named Flenzy. I;ve been working regular jobs for the last 9 years now. I just recently got layed off so i took this computor course and went out and bought a computer. I'd really like to meet with you in person over lunch or something. get in touch with me my email address is janparris@aol.com Your friend always Flenzy Robinson

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siimjatt
Date:
1/12/03
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2:07:10 AM
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normalllly, i think the NBA is white guy based and the streetZ dont get the respect the desERVE........the dont think the stREtZ are "offical enough" and what not............they try to demote the "none NBA like organiztions"

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Swift Shorty (James Wells)
Date:
1/15/03
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4:03:21 PM
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Pee Wee, you're still a very dear friend of mine. I'm still here in Charlotte, N.C.. I really would like to hear from you, Pee Wee. My phone number is (704)563-1218. I've tried to look you up on the internet for several years now. I can only hope that those within your acquaintance, who respect and carry you in their hearts as much as I do, will forward this message to you. I'm just so proud to know that your true character and manhood broke through all the smoke and ashes many of us were born into. Here's to our friendship, Pee Wee. May Almighty God keep you and all those so associated with you.

The name you gave me, Swift Shorty

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Scotty G
Date:
1/29/03
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9:59:55 AM
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I think steetball is the foundation of NBA basketball. Every real, true basketball player loves to play streetball, because it's raw, you do it because you love the game, not for money or for applause. Please tell me some good streetball courts in Chicago, because I'm moving there.

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Elliott
Date:
2/13/03
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10:28:11 AM
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Because they Feel as though the people that play street ball have not gottten there game to a profession level yet. Not knowing that street ball is the wave of the future. Pretty soon the NBA's Most explosive athelets will be playing at Rucker Park. This will occure because the NBA already feel as though the NBA players dont need all the money they get.

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BILAL
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2/16/03
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4:12:57 PM
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BECAUSE THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE GAME. BASKETBALL IS A GAME OF WILL AN SURVIVAL. NO PLACE CAN GIVE YOU THAT MORE THEN THE STREETS. SO WITHOUT STREET BALL. THERE WOULD BE NO NBA. COMMENTATORS DON'T KNOW SH*T PEACE OUT THE BILAL

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Harlem'z Finest
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3/6/03
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3:47:14 PM
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I definately can sense the hate from this racist eurocentric media. I mean c'mon even "Steive Wonder" can see these cats are extremely talented, yanno it amazes me how white america constantly down play the greatness of blacks , but ever notice how when they jump on the band wagon then it's okay...? I mean not just with sports but face it we set the standards socially in Amerikkka! You brotherz keep on keepin on, your greatness illuminates more than you think! ! luv....oh yeah Juci Jay eat a fat d!@#$....

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the alfuckinmighty
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3/8/03
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12:53:44 PM
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becuz mufuckaz aint playin by da rulez nigga!

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Date:
3/8/03
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1:08:32 PM
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Bob G"
Date:
4/24/03
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5:43:10 PM
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pee Wee I enjoyed your presentation at Hosta College,for the Youth Conference Day.The speech was very moving.My little daugther cried.Thanks for the message.I'll tell Harvey Young I saw you.Keep up the great work.

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Dark Handlz
Date:
5/1/03
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12:21:20 PM
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I want to get noticed because i can cross with the best of them and if you have any ways to help me improve any of my moves hit me up

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Dark Handlz
Date:
5/1/03
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12:24:05 PM
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I want to get noticed because i can cross with the best of them and if you have any ways to help me improve any of my moves hit me up and if you have any good nicknames for me that would be great

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Dark Handlz
Date:
5/1/03
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1:42:58 PM
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I just want to get noticed because I can ball with the best of them.Could tell me anything that would help me improve my moves and if you had some good nicknames that would be great

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dommy
Date:
5/16/03
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2:01:53 PM
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how do you do all the dunks for nba street vol.2

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Mark
Date:
5/27/03
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9:09:25 PM
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Don't get me wrong fella'z, i LUV streetball 2 tha fullest... But everybody knoez in the end, NBA players are better ballerz, u can give me dat goat and pee wee bulls#@!.... So what a NBA player gets done by a street baller a couple of times(stack). but look at skip, he in da league, but whatz he? nuttin, backup pg... dont hate... NBA commentators are a bunch of smucks newayz....

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lil pimp
Date:
6/8/03
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7:45:15 PM
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cuz they shit there pants when they see them play

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ROBERT
Date:
6/8/03
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9:11:19 PM
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Do you have any info on pee wee kirklands school of skillzs an adress or # .

Thank you in advance. Robert

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ROBERT
Date:
6/8/03
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9:15:31 PM
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Do you have any info on pee wee kirklands school of skillzs an adress or # .

Thank you in advance. Robert

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Ray
Date:
6/11/03
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6:28:47 PM
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I think they don't really know alot about what they are talking about, and simply think that all streetballers are bad people. I also think they are scared of how big street ball is becoming and want to downplay it as much as they can.

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Ray
Date:
6/11/03
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6:31:09 PM
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I think they don't really know alot about what they are talking about, and simply think that all streetballers are bad people. I also think they are scared of how big street ball is becoming and want to downplay it as much as they can.

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Andrew
Date:
6/13/03
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1:52:18 PM
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I think they refer to it in a derogatory manner because they see a bunch of black people supporting this and they dont know the backround of streetball. They see a bunch of black people having fun so they automatically think this can't be right and judge it wrong.

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Austin
Date:
6/15/03
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6:04:06 PM
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Steetball is fun to watch. If you look at the moves that they do they can get very hard. It takes time and effort, to learn the moves and to master them.

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big smoov
Date:
7/5/03
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3:11:04 AM
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Theo Hustle
Date:
7/8/03
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3:39:56 AM
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I think that they have no respect because the commentators dont understand the raw talent and grittiness that comes out of streetball. NBA is just where the big money is and thats all. Not to disrespect the players in it but it doesnt have the heart that streetball and streetball players have. They're still hungry, their ribs are touching and they put all that into that court. But as you can see now that players and corporate America is recognizing that and capitalizing on it. Just look at And 1, MTV's Who's Got Game and commercials in a whole. NBA commentators just see streetballers as streetballers nothing more, they dont see the talent. They see the violations, the unpredictibility, the edginess; and the thing is, is thats what makes it great. I see a future for streetballers and streetball in a whole. Just look at Allen Iverson along with a long list of others. The NBA commentators will find a respect for it when they wise'n up to the facts.

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Theo Hustle
Date:
7/8/03
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3:48:03 AM
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I think that they have no respect because the commentators dont understand the raw talent and grittiness that comes out of streetball. NBA is just where the big money is and thats all. Not to disrespect the players in it but it doesnt have the heart that streetball and streetball players have. They're still hungry, their ribs are touching and they put all that into that court. But as you can see now that players and corporate America is recognizing that and capitalizing on it. Just look at And 1, MTV's Who's Got Game and commercials in a whole. NBA commentators just see streetballers as streetballers nothing more, they dont see the talent. They see the violations, the unpredictibility, the edginess; and the thing is, is thats what makes it great. I see a future for streetballers and streetball in a whole. Just look at Allen Iverson along with a long list of others. The NBA commentators will find a respect for it when they wise'n up to the facts.

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Mario Owens
Date:
7/15/03
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1:00:54 AM
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how u gonna make a show that ends on a little kids game of knock out

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Date:
7/21/03
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8:01:58 PM
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because they no streetball player are the best

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obi
Date:
7/27/03
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5:46:53 AM
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I think they look down on streetball because it is "street business"(hawkers), unlike the NBA which is "wall street business." Until streetball can raise as much revenue as the NBA, the ones up the money ladder will always look down on it.(period)

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obi
Date:
7/27/03
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5:51:16 AM
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they look down on streetball cos its "Street Business," unlike the NBA that is "Wall Street Business." Until street ball can proove to raise as much revenue as the NBA, the ones higher up in the monetary ladder will always look down.

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obi
Date:
7/27/03
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5:57:35 AM
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they look down on streetball cos its "Street Business," unlike the NBA that is "Wall Street Business." Until street ball can proove to raise as much revenue as the NBA, the ones higher up in the monetary ladder will always look down.

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The One
Date:
8/3/03
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11:44:34 PM
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I believe that streetball is the best game out there, it's real, unlike the pro's where money is the issue. Streetball players play for the love of the game.

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Raymond
Date:
8/6/03
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5:16:20 PM
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Pee Wee is tha best basketball player of all times,i got much respect for him.Much love Pee Wee

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arnold
Date:
8/7/03
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11:21:04 AM
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you are nice

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gabe
Date:
8/7/03
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1:51:31 PM
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I never watched or even had a consciousness about the existence of streetball until it went mainstream. I can honestly say that my knowledge of the discipline only extends as far as And 1, Slam magazine, and the internet, but I've enjoyed learning about the legendary, almost mythical element in the game. Does street ball's mainstreaming signal a new openess and respect of African Americans in the white gaze or is it just another "mistrel show." peace

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gabe
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8/7/03
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1:53:45 PM
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I never watched or even had a consciousness about the existence of streetball until it went mainstream. I can honestly say that my knowledge of the discipline only extends as far as And 1, Slam magazine, and the internet, but I've enjoyed learning about the legendary, almost mythical element in the game. Does street ball's mainstreaming signal a new openess and respect of African Americans in the white gaze or is it just another "mistrel show." peace

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danous
Date:
8/17/03
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7:11:27 PM
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{most of my references are towards todays ballplayers} let me tell you fools soomething. the streetball played today is not the streetball of the past. the same can be said for the nba game. this and1 sh*t that is fucking up these young boys basketball game is the reason all these europeans are coming taking over the nba. so you keep loving that shake and bake, "when any true BALL player will tell you - GO SOMEWHERE WITH YOUR DRIBBLE", and watch these foriegn cats take over OUR game cuz we want to turn a few heads. who gives a damn about a ball in the shirt if you lose the game cuz the bama cant play d. and please tell me how many of these so called MAD-HANDLE ball players can shoot a f***ing jumper.

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Carlo "Mohawk" Blue
Date:
8/19/03
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12:38:46 AM
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Carlo "Mohawk" Blue
Date:
8/19/03
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this people belittle the true legends of basketball because they really don't know what basketball is all about and basketball is all about the streets man. If all this playground legends are still alive and still in their prime,Jordan will only be a second rated player. This legends could beat all the nba greats with one hand tied in their backs.The street ball players deserves some respect because their moves on the court are very respectable.

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Pee Wee Mike
Date:
8/24/03
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11:12:52 PM
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Because they are gay.

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jason
Date:
8/27/03
Time:
12:38:47 PM
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because they figure that streetballdoesn't apply to NBA rule it's not a real game because mostly anything goes.

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shan
Date:
9/19/03
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12:12:27 PM
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Roman Perez
Date:
10/1/03
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3:23:43 PM
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Really i'll tell you the truth. street ballers are players who play for the love of the game and respect, not for money or etc. Im from brooklyn ny and now i play for utah valley state college and i referring to that comentators mention the street ballers cause players in the nba remind them of old school guys like goat, pee wee, drj, and etc,and players now a days remind them of these guys in the way they play.

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Roman Perez
Date:
10/1/03
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3:28:59 PM
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Really i'll tell you the truth. street ballers are players who play for the love of the game and respect, not for money or etc. Im from brooklyn ny and now i play for utah valley state college and i referring to that comentators mention the street ballers cause players in the nba remind them of old school guys like goat, pee wee, drj, and etc,and players now a days remind them of these guys cause of the way they play.

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Willy Legagneur,Jr
Date:
10/12/03
Time:
7:29:51 PM
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Clearly the euro NBA commentators still want to preserve an image that good Basketball skills can only develop in an organized leauge,gym or institution. They still have a big problem accepting the natural creativity demonstrated by brothers whom learned the game in the streets.

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Roy Adams
Date:
11/19/03
Time:
2:57:23 PM
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PeeWee, this is a personal message for you. I am Flenzy's nephew and I need to speak with you. Please contact me at radams@triumphproperty.com

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Roy Adams
Date:
11/19/03
Time:
2:59:26 PM
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PeeWee, this is a personal message for you. I am Flenzy's nephew and I need to speak with you. Please contact me at radams@triumphproperty.com

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ARTIE MILES
Date:
11/21/03
Time:
5:42:44 PM
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BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T SEEN THE GUYS WE GREW UP WITH PABLOW,BARLOW TO NAME A FEW

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bigsteve
Date:
12/15/03
Time:
4:51:07 PM
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Streetball i s referred to in a derogatory manner by commentators because the NYC Harlem Globetrotter style of streetball. It's a lot of tricks which involve traveling, double dribble and other major infractions that compromise the integrity of the game. It's entertaining but the rule breaking makes it subject to criticism. Street ball is about the way it's played in the rest of the US, Detroit, Chicago, Philly, DC, L.A. etc where it's about winning and putting the ball in the hole. It isn't about ooh and ahh, it's about putting the ball in the hole more than your opponent.

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T. money
Date:
12/19/03
Time:
10:32:09 PM
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You must realize that commentators do not understand the culture of the less privledged. Yeah, they may have played ball in the hood, but the streetball legends lived the street life at one time or another. Perhaps, not so directly as the commentators may perceive. How could they judge the sking I'm in. The less fortunate ghetto superstars generally grow up with less bus seem to excel the most if they stay focused. Much love to all streetball legends, and legends in the making. Peace on earth and asphalt!

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chris polewarczyk
Date:
1/3/04
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11:40:35 PM
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I THINK PERSONALLY STREET BALL GETS A BAD NAME BECAUSE THE NAME SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.KIDS DIDNT HAVE RIMS AND HOOPS SO THEY MADE THERE OWN WHETHER IT BE A BASKET OR TRASH CAN.ANYBODY CAN LEARN HOW TO PLAY BALL BUT IN THE STREET ITS DIFFERENT ITS LIKE A WHOLE NOTHER LEVEL. FOR INSTANCE THE AND1 PLAYERS ARE STREET LEGENDS AND I THINK STREET BALL IS PART OF SHOWIN HOW MUCH SKILLS U GOT AND TO GET RESPECT FROM THE STREETS. BUT IT ALSO GIVES U THE ABILITY TO DO CERTAIN MOVES OF UR OWN THAT U CREATED AND CAN TAKE CREDIT FOR AND ALSO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT U WANT INSTEAD OF GOIN BY SOMEONE ELSES RULES.

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Jesusnme20
Date:
1/9/04
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1:40:32 PM
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The reason I believe that Nba commentators look at streetballers in a derogatory manner is that they dont understand the nature of the game or how much heart, grit, and determination that streetballers have. Its certain NBA players that wouldnt be playing the game if they wasnt making all that money. A true streetballer would play the game if its 10 or 110 degrees.

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Gerry Miller
Date:
1/25/04
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2:59:09 PM
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Hey stickman! How u doing. Have not heard from u in a while brother. Give me a call to talk about NC. (914) 667-4258.

Lincoln MHS Class of May 2000, Kirkland, Brooks, Miller, Senecharles, Spivey, Renne,

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sprtyboy7
Date:
2/5/04
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8:22:53 PM
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i think that streetball playas have a talent to do some high fyling dunks and some schooling fake out dunk combos. i mysef wanted a nickname like hot sause and AO and all others. i snd my friend ruben made eachoter nicknames like me The Future 2.0 and him The Groundshaka. We want a lot betta moves and nicknames.

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c speed
Date:
3/5/04
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10:49:54 AM
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sad to say its a black/ white thing. Alot of the commentators are white and the black culture is strange to them. Streetball is mostly black culture.

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Andre Catlett
Date:
3/12/04
Time:
3:36:03 PM
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I am a screenwriter from VA. I wat to find any contact info on Pee Wee Kirkland that I can. If you can help Please E-mail me at micdreams78@hotmail.com. I want to write a script on his life.

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Chassity Johnson
Date:
3/23/04
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10:35:47 AM
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I think that it is wrong when they do that. I hate it whrn they refer to Allen iverson as a "hootlum"

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Sean Norfleet aka Pure Handles aka Fleet
Date:
4/14/04
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12:27:21 PM
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A lot of the negative energy the NBA has toward streetball is pure jealousy. Streetball has tought us that basketball can be fun and entertaining and I think the NBA is intimitated by that. It's two different styles of basketball and Everyone needs a chance to showcase his or her talent.

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Sean Norfleet aka Pure Handles aka Fleet
Date:
4/14/04
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12:30:58 PM
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A lot of the negative energy the NBA has toward streetball is pure jealousy. Streetball has tought us that basketball can be fun and entertaining and I think the NBA is intimitated by that. It's two different styles of basketball and Everyone needs a chance to showcase his or her talent.

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flenzy1224@aol.com
Date:
4/28/04
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4:55:49 AM
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hey PeeWee! How ya doin? I finally heard from Liz and everyone. All the time you all been looking for me I was right in the phone bood the whole time, but noone ever thought to look there lol. I came up to see you last sunday but you were in VA. Please E mail me at the address above or call liz she has my phone number. I can't wait for you to see my family. Your friend for life /flenzy Robinson flimflam ha ha

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flenzy1224@aol.com
Date:
4/28/04
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5:17:27 AM
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hey stickman whats up? so it looks like we're finally going to see each other soon. My family found me last week but the funny thing is I was always listed in the phone book the one place they never thought I'd put my name in a phone bood ha ha. But they didnt realize that I was serious about turning my life around. Liz was over to see me last week and saw her nephew Flenzy Jr. for the first time in 10 yrs. He is twelve years old now and taller than his mother already. I can't wait to see you or hear from you. contact me at the E-mail address or call me at 201-437-9302 thats my home number You will always be my #1 man PeeWee man I miss you call me I have so much to talk to you about Yours truly Flenzy Robinson aka flimflam ha ha

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bossmon
Date:
5/3/04
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10:58:11 AM
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street baller r one of a kind baller

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Justin Thomas
Date:
5/10/04
Time:
6:21:51 PM
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This used to make me so mad when the announcers would say derogatory-type comments about street ball. Now I understand why. They aren't degrading Pee Wee Kirkland, Billy "The Kid" Harris, Fly Williams, and guys like that. Those are playground legends who also did it on the hardwood. Those guys had skills and knew how to play. The guys they are talking about is these guys who dunk and throw their jersey in the crowd and think they are a legend. That is who I believe they are talking bad about. Those guys, And 1 players, constantly talk about how they bust NBA players or they could do this or that. Well NBA teams are drafting high school players with no experience and some who dont even play and dont even look at the "legends" haha for a reason. They simply cannot play basketball. Pee Wee and them, they played basetball, they just played it on the blacktop. I honestly think it is more degrading to the REAL streetball legends to hear the guys today call THEMSELVES legends when they just got a name after 2 games in one park. RIP GOAT.

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Dominique Reed
Date:
5/11/04
Time:
11:32:58 AM
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It was good!!

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Mike
Date:
5/21/04
Time:
3:48:12 PM
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Well more than likely there not from that side of the spectrum. They tend to elaborate on things that have nothing to do with Basket ball

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Date:
7/8/04
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10:30:30 AM
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Date:
7/10/04
Time:
9:44:01 PM
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because street ball is known to most people as a rough form of basketball with no rules. Most people do not understand that many NBA players started playing ball at the parks, constantly playing against players better than them. Street ball helps players more than it hurts them.

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ED (SUNDANCE) DAVIS
Date:
7/15/04
Time:
10:45:44 AM
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I believe that most NBA commentators associate streetball with poor decisions and a lack of discipline. These are very negative traits that will hinder you on and off the basketball court. Streetball players are stigmatized with having their priorities out of order. They will play to impress the crowd rather than play to help the team win. They will risk losing the game in order to gain individual recognition is how many people perceive them. People with this mentality will not get a college education, will sell or indulge in drugs and are high risk in any organized team structure. This preception persists because the media is only interested in streetballers that fit this narrow mold. I am a Harlem streetball legend that received a B.A. in Sociology from the University of San Diego. I received a Masters Degree in Education from the City College of New York. I was a Captain in the United States Army and received an Honorable Discharge. I am entering my eighteenth year of teaching as a fully certified New York City school teacher. I have given back to my community through involvement with our youth pushing for positive goals and achievements. However, you will probably not hear about me because I do not fit the mold that streetballers want to be perceived as.

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Date:
7/24/04
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7:00:22 PM
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DON'T  SLEEP
Date:
7/25/04
Time:
11:43:01 AM
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The establishment is always demonizing anything that won't bring them a dollar. Street ball today is trendy because the Rucker games are aired a able sports cahnnel and they promote advitisements by big name corporate companies.... hence the Rucker & EBC are "A Good Thing", that will bring more money to the already rich.

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DON'T  SLEEP
Date:
7/25/04
Time:
11:45:32 AM
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The establishment is always demonizing anything that won't bring them a dollar. Street ball today is trendy because the Rucker games are aired a able sports cahnnel and they promote advitisements by big name corporate companies.... hence the Rucker & EBC are "A Good Thing", that will bring more money to the already rich.

Username:
Bone Collector
Date:
8/22/04
Time:
3:23:44 PM
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I DONT KNOW Y THEY HATIN ON US STREETBALLERS CUZ IT JUST DOESNT MAKE SENSE. their in the game for money(NBA), and we(streetballers) are in the game for fun.

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Tyrone Washington Junior
Date:
9/1/04
Time:
1:14:19 PM
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THe announcers disrepsect streetball because they haven't put into perspective the fact that streetball wasnt intended to have fundamentals as the basis of the game, contrary to the NBA. Streetball was the birthchild of egotism and flair, and pride, things in the hood that will take u out of it, which fundamentals can never do.

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Mo (Downtown) Jackson
Date:
9/1/04
Time:
1:33:42 PM
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Being a former Harlem legend, I know the hardships and adversities that players go through being young and black in a place where the temptations of crime are overwhelming. It is not surprising though why NBA commentators direct hate towards streetball, as they simply look at one side of it; players simply looking to do what will garner them the most recognition aka showing off. They do not though look at the side of it which is people working and struggling solely for a game which does not always return to them what they put in. And that is the true love for the game.

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kevin
Date:
9/21/04
Time:
8:12:36 PM
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the only reason commentators refer to streetball in a derogatory way is because they never played streetball a day of thier lives also some of the most famous players has that streetball attitude towards the game and they play with that streetball mentallity to become the greatest player

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Mike
Date:
10/3/04
Time:
2:50:07 PM
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well they look down on streetball because if you take a street legend like say AO or Hot Sauce and put them in the NBA they would get destroyed, if they play say paul pierce 1 on 1 the dribbing would be useless and you cant dunk every single time u get the ball, and you have to be able to make a shot

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eric a.k.a edubdgreat
Date:
10/11/04
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9:15:30 AM
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some people blow streetball way out of porportion i mean people just don't know the fundamentals all they want to do is just dribble and takes all the fun out of streetball. Holla atcha boy edubdagreat ONE

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Alex Wenger
Date:
10/25/04
Time:
10:51:42 AM
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Shawn Kemp, I think you are a awsome famouse hoosier. I'm glad i picked you for a report.

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Alex Wenger
Date:
10/25/04
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10:53:24 AM
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Shawn Kemp, I think you are a awesome famouse hoosier. I'm glad i picked you for a report.

Username:
Alex Wenger
Date:
10/25/04
Time:
10:54:51 AM
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tell juci jay to shut up

Username:
carol
Date:
10/27/04
Time:
12:04:55 PM
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Pee Wee made a lifestlye change and is giving back to the community. he is an advicate for nyc harlems children. HI Pee Wee

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Gerry miller
Date:
10/30/04
Time:
3:49:53 AM
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I know how to contact Pee Wee. What is your interest?

Username:
j.d.long s.r.
Date:
11/23/04
Time:
8:10:14 PM
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iam myself a streetball legend from spartanburg s.c. after i quit college street ball became my life playing in rec league games, streetball is pure basketball at it's best and 1 is a joke to streetball in general. thank u peace

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j.d.long s.r.
Date:
11/23/04
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8:11:41 PM
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iam myself a streetball legend from spartanburg s.c. after i quit college street ball became my life playing in rec league games, streetball is pure basketball at it's best and 1 is a joke to streetball in general. thank u peace

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Date:
12/5/04
Time:
12:11:11 AM
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hey stick,good to hear you're still around.we started all this stuff at milbank,hows brother lionel? I know buster's looking down and feeling real good about what god has done in your life, god has done me the same way,I'm sure its that way for alot of us off 117th,116th,115th..cook. charlesmaryann@sbcglobal.net

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cook
Date:
12/5/04
Time:
12:12:42 AM
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hey stick,good to hear you're still around.we started all this stuff at milbank,hows brother lionel? I know buster's looking down and feeling real good about what god has done in your life, god has done me the same way,I'm sure its that way for alot of us off 117th,116th,115th..cook. charlesmaryann@sbcglobal.net

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cook
Date:
12/5/04
Time:
12:14:10 AM
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hey stick,good to hear you're still around.we started all this stuff at milbank,hows brother lionel? I know buster's looking down and feeling real good about what god has done in your life, god has done me the same way,I'm sure its that way for alot of us off 117th,116th,115th..cook. charlesmaryann@sbcglobal.net

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ccok
Date:
12/5/04
Time:
12:23:52 AM
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hey syick good to see you're still arond,how's bro lionel?I know buster is looking down and smiling about how all his prayers for you and many others have been answered. just think it all started at milbank god is working with those of us off 115,116,117 & 118th street

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b. allen
Date:
2/14/05
Time:
4:22:05 PM
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pee wee kirkland was a very talanted and a very great basketball player and i with he could teach me some moves of my own so i can score 135 points like he did while playing street ball

Username:
Iceman
Date:
4/4/05
Time:
2:05:44 PM
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Some NBC commentators thank the game should always be played a certain way and no one person is bigger than the game. I feel the game is a player’s game with each person having his own unique style of playing the game. With everything in the world changing, you've got to be naive to think the game of basketball won't change.

 

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