Pee Wee
Kirkland: Rising Above the Rim
Why do you
think NBA commentators sometimes refer to streetball in a derogatory manner when talking
about certain players? We'd like to know what you think. Please leave your comments in
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- Username:
- willy Legagneur,jr
- Date:
- 5/4/00
- Time:
- 10:40:09 AM
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I BELIEVE STREET RECIEVES ITS NEGETIVE COMMENTS BECAUSE THE
EUROPEANS DONT UNDERSTAND ITS UNORTHODOX NATURE.STREET BALL STARTED WITH KIDS USING
GARBBAGE CANS ON GROUND LEVEL,BECAUSE CITY PARKS DIDNT HAVE RIMS OR WERE TO FAR TO GO
TO.THESE KIDS PLAYED THE GAME W/ A LOT OF IMAGINATION THUS THEIR ABILITY TO DO SOME OF THE
MAGICAL THING WE ALL SEE IN BASKETBALL TODAY.
- Username:
- mistwaka-M41ars@aol.com
- Date:
- 11/16/01
- Time:
- 3:16:43 PM
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NBA commentators refer to streetball in derogatory manner
because streetball is an art. Almost anyone can learn the technical basics of basketball.
But visit any outdoor court in America where the best players meet to showcase their
skills and you'll see movement, shooting and passing that can only be best described as
art in motion.
- Username:
- daballerfest
- Date:
- 12/31/01
- Time:
- 12:22:40 PM
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i think maybe they are jealous they won't admit it but
street ballers have a talent that so many people strive for and can't accomplish i respect
those who streetball. you guys rock. keep it up. and also maybe they know that the people
on the street better than some of the nba players
- Username:
- Aaron
- Date:
- 2/9/02
- Time:
- 12:27:42 PM
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Not Pure Basketball 90% Offense 10% Defense
- Username:
- Rasheed Miller
- Date:
- 3/21/02
- Time:
- 9:54:30 PM
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because a lot of commentators know that some of these guys
who play "street ball" will give a lot of guys in the NBA the business. For
Example look at what happened to "Mr. I am Better Than Michael Jordan
Stackhouse" he got his ass bust in hunter college pro am tournament. And hell no he
could never be better than Jordan. I don't care if Jordan is 50 years old.
- Username:
- Richard C Taylor
- Date:
- 4/4/02
- Time:
- 11:38:34 AM
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Looking down on streetball is bull**** I believe streetball
is just the tru players who love basketball and dont want the money look at people like
PeeWee Kirkland and Richard jefferson in my book some of the greatest players of the game
- Username:
- Big Dawg
- Date:
- 4/14/02
- Time:
- 9:33:31 PM
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I believe it does not get the credibility it deserves
because people do not understand the game of basketball as street players do. it all is in
the hart. Basketball evolved the game of street ball, therefore it shall forever remain
apart of the game itself. That is why players today illustate that rawness street ballers
do.It basketball in its rarest,rawest form.I love this game!
- Username:
- Rev. H. Bernard Branch
- Date:
- 4/29/02
- Time:
- 11:27:35 AM
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I was a student at Norfolk State back in the late 60s when
Pee Wee played there. He was a very agile player and I use to wonder how he dressed so
well. All that does not matter now because I am so happy to know that God has a definite
purpose in his life. I watch those Nike commercials and I think I see him. I wish you well
Pee Wee and would love for you to come to speak at my church in NOrfolk...where I now
pastor Rev. H. Bernard Branch 757-545-0462 I was known to be a streetballer at Hemingway
Park in Norfolk. There were greater ones "Ace", "Big Fred" "Boo
Boo" many of these guys never made it to college however, they worked hard and knew
the game, it ought not to be a negative connotation, but a reference to some who worked
hard to play and know the game
- Username:
- pierre perry
- Date:
- 4/29/02
- Time:
- 12:06:31 PM
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man pee wee kirkland is the best f*ckin basketball player
ever how in the hell did he get to be a legend in two different games aint that some shit
that is the mothaf*ckin man
r.i.p pierre 85-99
- Username:
- christian
- Date:
- 5/9/02
- Time:
- 11:55:05 AM
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i believe that street ball gets negative feedback because
europeans are generally threatened by the uptempo atheletic change and style. its an
attitude that many cant deal with.street ball players play with game with style and grace
that regular standard basketball cannot display, it allows kids to show their creativity
on a whole new level, to advance moves and add grace and authority to them.in general
street players are way more advanced than n.b.a players, and on the street courts their
skills speak for themselves. a lot of pro players have been domianted on street courts and
thats why streetplayers and certain street courts like the rutgers in harlem get respect
from basketball players all over the world
- Username:
- mlarrie74@yahoo.com
- Date:
- 5/28/02
- Time:
- 12:40:26 PM
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I feel the reason why some NBA analyst refer to these
derogatory statements. is because they feel in some way cheated. By not getting the same
notoriety as these street ball legends.
- Username:
- KPrater
- Date:
- 6/10/02
- Time:
- 2:00:14 PM
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Street ball doesn't get the credibility that it deserves,
because you probably would still have the NBA segregated the way it was back in the 50s if
it wasn't for streetball, commentators understand the wouldn't have a career if it wasn't
for streetball, because there wouldn't be quite as many teams because there wouldn't be
quite as many players, commentators like criticizing everyone else when they are no one
else, look at Marv Albert. They just need material to talk about so they talk about
streetball, back in the 50s no one watched the NBA because watching an all white sport is
boring, that's why you have players taking all sorts of sports, we've taken basketball,
football, baseball, golf, and are integrating hockey we've already started to take over
soccer, if it wasn't people other than whites their wouldn't be nothing interesting,
because whites are so plain. I BELIEVE STREET RECIEVES ITS NEGETIVE COMMENTS BECAUSE THE
EUROPEANS DONT UNDERSTAND ITS UNORTHODOX NATURE. NBA commentators refer to streetball in
derogatory manner because streetball is an art. Looking down on streetball is bull**** I
believe streetball is just the tru players who love basketball and dont want the money
- Username:
- Tony Paccione
- Date:
- 6/24/02
- Time:
- 5:34:58 PM
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It is because at one time "organized" basketball,
that is, basketball played on the college, and pro level did not include blacks or
"negros" as we were called then. So it was with disdain that when, and if, the
situation came about that a "white" team was ever beat by a "bunch of black
guys from the inner city" they would smirk and say "yeah they beat us but they
were playin street ball" as if it didn't matter because we were like a bunch of
monkees who just happened to throw the ball in the direction of the basket and "lo
and behold" it went in!!! The epitome of this situation is when the famous southern
coach with the championship team had the occasion to play a team that had an all black
starting 5 (I don't remember who the interactial team was) and LOST. That was his biggest
embarrasment in life and it tought America a lesson about RACE. There are alot of good
"street ball" players sitting the bench because of coaches who still hold out
these feelings toward blacks and basketball.
- Username:
- Juci Jay
- Date:
- 6/27/02
- Time:
- 4:17:28 PM
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Street ball sucz a$$
- Username:
- Trevor
- Date:
- 6/30/02
- Time:
- 12:49:07 AM
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I don't think SOME of the commentators know what they are
even talking about when they talk about streetball.. streetball is where the true talent
for the game of basketball actually show. for some reason i feel that these streetballers
are getting a lot of love from the true players and that those jelous @$$ comentators
never get.
- Username:
- Sean
- Date:
- 7/8/02
- Time:
- 12:58:52 AM
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On the and 1 mix tape vol 2( the worst one). at the end of
the video Half man Half amazin challenged the best Nbap players
(kobe,als,shaq,duncan,starbury,garnet etc) to play the best street ball playas( head
ache,hot sauce,da future and half man half amazing etc.)I think this would be a great
game. To playground style clash with NBA game. Everyone that knew anyhting about ball
would watch the game. They should put on the allstar game weekend or somehting. fuck that
other question. this should be brought through im out like shawn kemps hops
- Username:
- Scotty 2 Hotty
- Date:
- 7/17/02
- Time:
- 10:48:01 AM
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They consider it a minority. Most of the time we talk about
minorities in a derogatory manner
- Username:
- DeWayne
- Date:
- 7/23/02
- Time:
- 2:04:09 PM
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White ignorance! White's don't like anything they can't
corner the market on. Street basketball is controlled by Blacks, and this is how we should
keep it.
- Username:
- RawDawg
- Date:
- 7/28/02
- Time:
- 9:20:06 PM
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Streetball is a term whites made up to keep themselves from
feeling inferior. For example, they(whites) say: We play professional ball, not that
streetball. Truth: The majority of whites don't possess the qualities or toughness to play
in the streets on a high level (pee-wee, the goat, etc.,.), so they have to label it as
being beneath them. They tried to do the same thing with boxing(brawlers, street brawlers,
etc..), but we proved to perform on every level and supercede their expectations. P.S.
Juci Jay is a weak ass, spineless hater.
- Username:
- westsidethug
- Date:
- 8/6/02
- Time:
- 12:41:51 PM
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one of the key reasons why the "pros" frown upon
the street is because the street player is unpredictable. Street moves, if they are good,
are unpredictable. The coaches want to be able to have control over their players. In the
pros you have to do textbook moves while the street player creates his own moves.
- Username:
- Rice Krispies
- Date:
- 8/21/02
- Time:
- 11:45:13 AM
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Cause they haten on us we were the ones that started the
game like Crossovers if it wasnt for us makn that MJ wouldnt have made his last shot with
the Bulls Let them hate but 10 years from now thats wats gonna rule the NBA streetball
Harlem NY Five Wise Men Forever
- Username:
- reality check.
- Date:
- 9/20/02
- Time:
- 3:16:56 PM
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the united states' recent performance in the world
basketball tournament emphasised how easily the streetball mentality is when it is
confronted by fundamentals and disciplined team play. streetballers are entertainers --
don't romanticize their abilities.
- Username:
- maurice jackson
- Date:
- 9/25/02
- Time:
- 10:53:36 AM
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i know for a fact when the n.b.a commentators talk down on
street ball they jus mad at the fact no 1 likes the n.b.a no more i mean every lil kid no
longer wants 2 be like mike or kobey now they want 2 be like skip 2 my lou or hot sauce or
so many other catz that make it 2 the n.b.a but bottom line is the commentators need 2
"stop" down talking and when the next e.b.c tourn. roll around go watch a game
or 2 and i bet they will be saying 2 their self kobey how.......
- Username:
- jay
- Date:
- 10/3/02
- Time:
- 6:26:00 PM
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what was number peewee kirkland when he played for the
chicago bulls
- Username:
- Jay Kerrigan
- Date:
- 11/8/02
- Time:
- 3:55:50 AM
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I think streetball is tougher than regular basketball and
people like the goat or pee wee are unbelievable players and should have been playin in
the nba but i don't think any of them could have hung with jordan but other than that they
were the best
- Username:
- hit man
- Date:
- 11/16/02
- Time:
- 7:57:49 PM
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i think the commentators are jealous.That they don't have
the prevalege to see the street ball game in front of them .just because the ref respects
the things the baller does doesn't make that sport less competative or exciting than the
nba
- Username:
- hit man
- Date:
- 11/16/02
- Time:
- 8:01:58 PM
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pee kirkland and the goat could have took jordan on and won
cause i know jordans good but he didn't play old school were the goat was jumping to the
top of the back board or when pee wee score 135 points in a preseason game or when Dr.j
did his outstanding dunks that shocked everyone if micheal was round back then he would
have had compitition
- Username:
- St.Louis Baller
- Date:
- 12/13/02
- Time:
- 12:41:24 PM
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I think that NBA commentators and other
"Professional" people hate on Streetball because of the fact that the so called
"BEST" can't play at that level. Streetball is a tough game and not just anyone
can go out there and just dominate like streetballers do. They hate on it because its not
setting picks and passing the ball to the big man all the time, or in other words they
hate on it because your not contained. The commentators our so full of s*** with the NBA
that they fail to realize that streetball is the same game but with a lot more attitude
and its a lot more advanced. There ain't to many NBA players that can even try to D Hot
Sauce up. Streetball was there in the begining and because of that that's were the NBA
came from. Don't hate the game cuz yall can't play it. (P.S. Juci Jay is a lil b****.
- Username:
- Griffter
- Date:
- 12/13/02
- Time:
- 5:37:33 PM
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I personally think streetball is an art, and only some
people look at art for what it is. So the people who say $#!t about when they have no clue
what its about
- Username:
- janparris32@aol.com
- Date:
- 1/7/03
- Time:
- 9:28:07 AM
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Hi Pee Wee this is Flenzy i read your Website and iam glad
to see everything is cool with you. Reading what you wrote hit home to me too.I've been
out of it for over 9 years now too. I've been working regular jobs and have a wife and an
11 year old son named Flenzy too. He,s a christmas baby. I'd like to hear from you . Maybe
we could get together for lunch sometime. my e mail address is janparris32@aol.com Please
get back to me I'd really like to see you in person.
- Username:
- janparris32@aol.com.
- Date:
- 1/7/03
- Time:
- 9:37:23 AM
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Hi pee wee this is Flenzy. I read your website and like you
I also came to realize that there;s more to life than fast money. I'n now married and have
a beautiful son also named Flenzy. I;ve been working regular jobs for the last 9 years
now. I just recently got layed off so i took this computor course and went out and bought
a computer. I'd really like to meet with you in person over lunch or something. get in
touch with me my email address is janparris@aol.com Your friend always Flenzy Robinson
- Username:
- siimjatt
- Date:
- 1/12/03
- Time:
- 2:07:10 AM
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normalllly, i think the NBA is white guy based and the
streetZ dont get the respect the desERVE........the dont think the stREtZ are
"offical enough" and what not............they try to demote the "none NBA
like organiztions"
- Username:
- Swift Shorty (James Wells)
- Date:
- 1/15/03
- Time:
- 4:03:21 PM
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Pee Wee, you're still a very dear friend of mine. I'm still
here in Charlotte, N.C.. I really would like to hear from you, Pee Wee. My phone number is
(704)563-1218. I've tried to look you up on the internet for several years now. I can only
hope that those within your acquaintance, who respect and carry you in their hearts as
much as I do, will forward this message to you. I'm just so proud to know that your true
character and manhood broke through all the smoke and ashes many of us were born into.
Here's to our friendship, Pee Wee. May Almighty God keep you and all those so associated
with you.
The name you gave me, Swift Shorty
- Username:
- Scotty G
- Date:
- 1/29/03
- Time:
- 9:59:55 AM
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I think steetball is the foundation of NBA basketball.
Every real, true basketball player loves to play streetball, because it's raw, you do it
because you love the game, not for money or for applause. Please tell me some good
streetball courts in Chicago, because I'm moving there.
- Username:
- Elliott
- Date:
- 2/13/03
- Time:
- 10:28:11 AM
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Because they Feel as though the people that play street
ball have not gottten there game to a profession level yet. Not knowing that street ball
is the wave of the future. Pretty soon the NBA's Most explosive athelets will be playing
at Rucker Park. This will occure because the NBA already feel as though the NBA players
dont need all the money they get.
- Username:
- BILAL
- Date:
- 2/16/03
- Time:
- 4:12:57 PM
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BECAUSE THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE GAME. BASKETBALL IS A
GAME OF WILL AN SURVIVAL. NO PLACE CAN GIVE YOU THAT MORE THEN THE STREETS. SO WITHOUT
STREET BALL. THERE WOULD BE NO NBA. COMMENTATORS DON'T KNOW SH*T PEACE OUT THE BILAL
- Username:
- Harlem'z Finest
- Date:
- 3/6/03
- Time:
- 3:47:14 PM
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I definately can sense the hate from this racist eurocentric media. I mean c'mon even
"Steive Wonder" can see these cats are extremely talented, yanno it amazes me
how white america constantly down play the greatness of blacks , but ever notice how when
they jump on the band wagon then it's okay...? I mean not just with sports but face it we
set the standards socially in Amerikkka! You brotherz keep on keepin on, your greatness
illuminates more than you think! ! luv....oh yeah Juci Jay eat a fat d!@#$....
- Username:
- the alfuckinmighty
- Date:
- 3/8/03
- Time:
- 12:53:44 PM
- Remote User:
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becuz mufuckaz aint playin by da rulez nigga!
- Username:
- Date:
- 3/8/03
- Time:
- 1:08:32 PM
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- Username:
- Bob G"
- Date:
- 4/24/03
- Time:
- 5:43:10 PM
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pee Wee I enjoyed your presentation at Hosta College,for the Youth Conference Day.The
speech was very moving.My little daugther cried.Thanks for the message.I'll tell Harvey
Young I saw you.Keep up the great work.
- Username:
- Dark Handlz
- Date:
- 5/1/03
- Time:
- 12:21:20 PM
- Remote User:
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I want to get noticed because i can cross with the best of them and if you have any
ways to help me improve any of my moves hit me up
- Username:
- Dark Handlz
- Date:
- 5/1/03
- Time:
- 12:24:05 PM
- Remote User:
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I want to get noticed because i can cross with the best of them and if you have any
ways to help me improve any of my moves hit me up and if you have any good nicknames for
me that would be great
- Username:
- Dark Handlz
- Date:
- 5/1/03
- Time:
- 1:42:58 PM
- Remote User:
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I just want to get noticed because I can ball with the best of them.Could tell me
anything that would help me improve my moves and if you had some good nicknames that would
be great
- Username:
- dommy
- Date:
- 5/16/03
- Time:
- 2:01:53 PM
- Remote User:
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how do you do all the dunks for nba street vol.2
- Username:
- Mark
- Date:
- 5/27/03
- Time:
- 9:09:25 PM
- Remote User:
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Don't get me wrong fella'z, i LUV streetball 2 tha fullest... But everybody knoez in
the end, NBA players are better ballerz, u can give me dat goat and pee wee bulls#@!....
So what a NBA player gets done by a street baller a couple of times(stack). but look at
skip, he in da league, but whatz he? nuttin, backup pg... dont hate... NBA commentators
are a bunch of smucks newayz....
- Username:
- lil pimp
- Date:
- 6/8/03
- Time:
- 7:45:15 PM
- Remote User:
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cuz they shit there pants when they see them play
- Username:
- ROBERT
- Date:
- 6/8/03
- Time:
- 9:11:19 PM
- Remote User:
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Do you have any info on pee wee kirklands school of skillzs an adress or # .
Thank you in advance. Robert
- Username:
- ROBERT
- Date:
- 6/8/03
- Time:
- 9:15:31 PM
- Remote User:
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Do you have any info on pee wee kirklands school of skillzs an adress or # .
Thank you in advance. Robert
- Username:
- Ray
- Date:
- 6/11/03
- Time:
- 6:28:47 PM
- Remote User:
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I think they don't really know alot about what they are talking about, and simply
think that all streetballers are bad people. I also think they are scared of how big
street ball is becoming and want to downplay it as much as they can.
- Username:
- Ray
- Date:
- 6/11/03
- Time:
- 6:31:09 PM
- Remote User:
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I think they don't really know alot about what they are talking about, and simply
think that all streetballers are bad people. I also think they are scared of how big
street ball is becoming and want to downplay it as much as they can.
- Username:
- Andrew
- Date:
- 6/13/03
- Time:
- 1:52:18 PM
- Remote User:
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I think they refer to it in a derogatory manner because they see a bunch of black
people supporting this and they dont know the backround of streetball. They see a bunch of
black people having fun so they automatically think this can't be right and judge it
wrong.
- Username:
- Austin
- Date:
- 6/15/03
- Time:
- 6:04:06 PM
- Remote User:
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Steetball is fun to watch. If you look at the moves that they do they can get very
hard. It takes time and effort, to learn the moves and to master them.
- Username:
- big smoov
- Date:
- 7/5/03
- Time:
- 3:11:04 AM
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- Username:
- Theo Hustle
- Date:
- 7/8/03
- Time:
- 3:39:56 AM
- Remote User:
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I think that they have no respect because the commentators dont understand the raw
talent and grittiness that comes out of streetball. NBA is just where the big money is and
thats all. Not to disrespect the players in it but it doesnt have the heart that
streetball and streetball players have. They're still hungry, their ribs are touching and
they put all that into that court. But as you can see now that players and corporate
America is recognizing that and capitalizing on it. Just look at And 1, MTV's Who's Got
Game and commercials in a whole. NBA commentators just see streetballers as streetballers
nothing more, they dont see the talent. They see the violations, the unpredictibility, the
edginess; and the thing is, is thats what makes it great. I see a future for streetballers
and streetball in a whole. Just look at Allen Iverson along with a long list of others.
The NBA commentators will find a respect for it when they wise'n up to the facts.
- Username:
- Theo Hustle
- Date:
- 7/8/03
- Time:
- 3:48:03 AM
- Remote User:
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I think that they have no respect because the commentators dont understand the raw
talent and grittiness that comes out of streetball. NBA is just where the big money is and
thats all. Not to disrespect the players in it but it doesnt have the heart that
streetball and streetball players have. They're still hungry, their ribs are touching and
they put all that into that court. But as you can see now that players and corporate
America is recognizing that and capitalizing on it. Just look at And 1, MTV's Who's Got
Game and commercials in a whole. NBA commentators just see streetballers as streetballers
nothing more, they dont see the talent. They see the violations, the unpredictibility, the
edginess; and the thing is, is thats what makes it great. I see a future for streetballers
and streetball in a whole. Just look at Allen Iverson along with a long list of others.
The NBA commentators will find a respect for it when they wise'n up to the facts.
- Username:
- Mario Owens
- Date:
- 7/15/03
- Time:
- 1:00:54 AM
- Remote User:
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how u gonna make a show that ends on a little kids game of knock out
- Username:
- Date:
- 7/21/03
- Time:
- 8:01:58 PM
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because they no streetball player are the best
- Username:
- obi
- Date:
- 7/27/03
- Time:
- 5:46:53 AM
- Remote User:
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I think they look down on streetball because it is "street
business"(hawkers), unlike the NBA which is "wall street business." Until
streetball can raise as much revenue as the NBA, the ones up the money ladder will always
look down on it.(period)
- Username:
- obi
- Date:
- 7/27/03
- Time:
- 5:51:16 AM
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they look down on streetball cos its "Street Business," unlike the NBA that
is "Wall Street Business." Until street ball can proove to raise as much revenue
as the NBA, the ones higher up in the monetary ladder will always look down.
- Username:
- obi
- Date:
- 7/27/03
- Time:
- 5:57:35 AM
- Remote User:
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they look down on streetball cos its "Street Business," unlike the NBA that
is "Wall Street Business." Until street ball can proove to raise as much revenue
as the NBA, the ones higher up in the monetary ladder will always look down.
- Username:
- The One
- Date:
- 8/3/03
- Time:
- 11:44:34 PM
- Remote User:
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I believe that streetball is the best game out there, it's real, unlike the pro's where
money is the issue. Streetball players play for the love of the game.
- Username:
- Raymond
- Date:
- 8/6/03
- Time:
- 5:16:20 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
Pee Wee is tha best basketball player of all times,i got much respect for him.Much love
Pee Wee
- Username:
- arnold
- Date:
- 8/7/03
- Time:
- 11:21:04 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
you are nice
- Username:
- gabe
- Date:
- 8/7/03
- Time:
- 1:51:31 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
I never watched or even had a consciousness about the existence of streetball until it
went mainstream. I can honestly say that my knowledge of the discipline only extends as
far as And 1, Slam magazine, and the internet, but I've enjoyed learning about the
legendary, almost mythical element in the game. Does street ball's mainstreaming signal a
new openess and respect of African Americans in the white gaze or is it just another
"mistrel show." peace
- Username:
- gabe
- Date:
- 8/7/03
- Time:
- 1:53:45 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
I never watched or even had a consciousness about the existence of streetball until it
went mainstream. I can honestly say that my knowledge of the discipline only extends as
far as And 1, Slam magazine, and the internet, but I've enjoyed learning about the
legendary, almost mythical element in the game. Does street ball's mainstreaming signal a
new openess and respect of African Americans in the white gaze or is it just another
"mistrel show." peace
- Username:
- danous
- Date:
- 8/17/03
- Time:
- 7:11:27 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
{most of my references are towards todays ballplayers} let me tell you fools
soomething. the streetball played today is not the streetball of the past. the same can be
said for the nba game. this and1 sh*t that is fucking up these young boys basketball game
is the reason all these europeans are coming taking over the nba. so you keep loving that
shake and bake, "when any true BALL player will tell you - GO SOMEWHERE WITH YOUR
DRIBBLE", and watch these foriegn cats take over OUR game cuz we want to turn a few
heads. who gives a damn about a ball in the shirt if you lose the game cuz the bama cant
play d. and please tell me how many of these so called MAD-HANDLE ball players can shoot a
f***ing jumper.
- Username:
- Carlo "Mohawk" Blue
- Date:
- 8/19/03
- Time:
- 12:38:46 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
- Username:
- Carlo "Mohawk" Blue
- Date:
- 8/19/03
- Time:
- 12:47:21 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
this people belittle the true legends of basketball because they really don't know what
basketball is all about and basketball is all about the streets man. If all this
playground legends are still alive and still in their prime,Jordan will only be a second
rated player. This legends could beat all the nba greats with one hand tied in their
backs.The street ball players deserves some respect because their moves on the court are
very respectable.
- Username:
- Pee Wee Mike
- Date:
- 8/24/03
- Time:
- 11:12:52 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
Because they are gay.
- Username:
- jason
- Date:
- 8/27/03
- Time:
- 12:38:47 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
because they figure that streetballdoesn't apply to NBA rule it's not a real game
because mostly anything goes.
- Username:
- shan
- Date:
- 9/19/03
- Time:
- 12:12:27 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
- Username:
- Roman Perez
- Date:
- 10/1/03
- Time:
- 3:23:43 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
Really i'll tell you the truth. street ballers are players who play for the love of the
game and respect, not for money or etc. Im from brooklyn ny and now i play for utah valley
state college and i referring to that comentators mention the street ballers cause players
in the nba remind them of old school guys like goat, pee wee, drj, and etc,and players now
a days remind them of these guys in the way they play.
- Username:
- Roman Perez
- Date:
- 10/1/03
- Time:
- 3:28:59 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
Really i'll tell you the truth. street ballers are players who play for the love of the
game and respect, not for money or etc. Im from brooklyn ny and now i play for utah valley
state college and i referring to that comentators mention the street ballers cause players
in the nba remind them of old school guys like goat, pee wee, drj, and etc,and players now
a days remind them of these guys cause of the way they play.
- Username:
- Willy Legagneur,Jr
- Date:
- 10/12/03
- Time:
- 7:29:51 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
Clearly the euro NBA commentators still want to preserve an image that good Basketball
skills can only develop in an organized leauge,gym or institution. They still have a big
problem accepting the natural creativity demonstrated by brothers whom learned the game in
the streets.
- Username:
- Roy Adams
- Date:
- 11/19/03
- Time:
- 2:57:23 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
PeeWee, this is a personal message for you. I am Flenzy's nephew and I need to speak
with you. Please contact me at radams@triumphproperty.com
- Username:
- Roy Adams
- Date:
- 11/19/03
- Time:
- 2:59:26 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
PeeWee, this is a personal message for you. I am Flenzy's nephew and I need to speak
with you. Please contact me at radams@triumphproperty.com
- Username:
- ARTIE MILES
- Date:
- 11/21/03
- Time:
- 5:42:44 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T SEEN THE GUYS WE GREW UP WITH PABLOW,BARLOW TO NAME A FEW
- Username:
- bigsteve
- Date:
- 12/15/03
- Time:
- 4:51:07 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
Streetball i s referred to in a derogatory manner by commentators because the NYC
Harlem Globetrotter style of streetball. It's a lot of tricks which involve traveling,
double dribble and other major infractions that compromise the integrity of the game. It's
entertaining but the rule breaking makes it subject to criticism. Street ball is about the
way it's played in the rest of the US, Detroit, Chicago, Philly, DC, L.A. etc where it's
about winning and putting the ball in the hole. It isn't about ooh and ahh, it's about
putting the ball in the hole more than your opponent.
- Username:
- T. money
- Date:
- 12/19/03
- Time:
- 10:32:09 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
You must realize that commentators do not understand the culture of the less
privledged. Yeah, they may have played ball in the hood, but the streetball legends lived
the street life at one time or another. Perhaps, not so directly as the commentators may
perceive. How could they judge the sking I'm in. The less fortunate ghetto superstars
generally grow up with less bus seem to excel the most if they stay focused. Much love to
all streetball legends, and legends in the making. Peace on earth and asphalt!
- Username:
- chris polewarczyk
- Date:
- 1/3/04
- Time:
- 11:40:35 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
I THINK PERSONALLY STREET BALL GETS A BAD NAME BECAUSE THE NAME SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.KIDS
DIDNT HAVE RIMS AND HOOPS SO THEY MADE THERE OWN WHETHER IT BE A BASKET OR TRASH
CAN.ANYBODY CAN LEARN HOW TO PLAY BALL BUT IN THE STREET ITS DIFFERENT ITS LIKE A WHOLE
NOTHER LEVEL. FOR INSTANCE THE AND1 PLAYERS ARE STREET LEGENDS AND I THINK STREET BALL IS
PART OF SHOWIN HOW MUCH SKILLS U GOT AND TO GET RESPECT FROM THE STREETS. BUT IT ALSO
GIVES U THE ABILITY TO DO CERTAIN MOVES OF UR OWN THAT U CREATED AND CAN TAKE CREDIT FOR
AND ALSO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT U WANT INSTEAD OF GOIN BY SOMEONE ELSES RULES.
- Username:
- Jesusnme20
- Date:
- 1/9/04
- Time:
- 1:40:32 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
The reason I believe that Nba commentators look at streetballers in a derogatory manner
is that they dont understand the nature of the game or how much heart, grit, and
determination that streetballers have. Its certain NBA players that wouldnt be playing the
game if they wasnt making all that money. A true streetballer would play the game if its
10 or 110 degrees.
- Username:
- Gerry Miller
- Date:
- 1/25/04
- Time:
- 2:59:09 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
Hey stickman! How u doing. Have not heard from u in a while brother. Give me a call to
talk about NC. (914) 667-4258.
Lincoln MHS Class of May 2000, Kirkland, Brooks, Miller, Senecharles, Spivey, Renne,
- Username:
- sprtyboy7
- Date:
- 2/5/04
- Time:
- 8:22:53 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
i think that streetball playas have a talent to do some high fyling dunks and some
schooling fake out dunk combos. i mysef wanted a nickname like hot sause and AO and all
others. i snd my friend ruben made eachoter nicknames like me The Future 2.0 and him The
Groundshaka. We want a lot betta moves and nicknames.
- Username:
- c speed
- Date:
- 3/5/04
- Time:
- 10:49:54 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
sad to say its a black/ white thing. Alot of the commentators are white and the black
culture is strange to them. Streetball is mostly black culture.
- Username:
- Andre Catlett
- Date:
- 3/12/04
- Time:
- 3:36:03 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
I am a screenwriter from VA. I wat to find any contact info on Pee Wee Kirkland that I
can. If you can help Please E-mail me at micdreams78@hotmail.com. I want to write a script
on his life.
- Username:
- Chassity Johnson
- Date:
- 3/23/04
- Time:
- 10:35:47 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
I think that it is wrong when they do that. I hate it whrn they refer to Allen iverson
as a "hootlum"
- Username:
- Sean Norfleet aka Pure Handles aka Fleet
- Date:
- 4/14/04
- Time:
- 12:27:21 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
A lot of the negative energy the NBA has toward streetball is pure jealousy. Streetball
has tought us that basketball can be fun and entertaining and I think the NBA is
intimitated by that. It's two different styles of basketball and Everyone needs a chance
to showcase his or her talent.
- Username:
- Sean Norfleet aka Pure Handles aka Fleet
- Date:
- 4/14/04
- Time:
- 12:30:58 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
A lot of the negative energy the NBA has toward streetball is pure jealousy. Streetball
has tought us that basketball can be fun and entertaining and I think the NBA is
intimitated by that. It's two different styles of basketball and Everyone needs a chance
to showcase his or her talent.
- Username:
- flenzy1224@aol.com
- Date:
- 4/28/04
- Time:
- 4:55:49 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
hey PeeWee! How ya doin? I finally heard from Liz and everyone. All the time you all
been looking for me I was right in the phone bood the whole time, but noone ever thought
to look there lol. I came up to see you last sunday but you were in VA. Please E mail me
at the address above or call liz she has my phone number. I can't wait for you to see my
family. Your friend for life /flenzy Robinson flimflam ha ha
- Username:
- flenzy1224@aol.com
- Date:
- 4/28/04
- Time:
- 5:17:27 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
hey stickman whats up? so it looks like we're finally going to see each other soon. My
family found me last week but the funny thing is I was always listed in the phone book the
one place they never thought I'd put my name in a phone bood ha ha. But they didnt realize
that I was serious about turning my life around. Liz was over to see me last week and saw
her nephew Flenzy Jr. for the first time in 10 yrs. He is twelve years old now and taller
than his mother already. I can't wait to see you or hear from you. contact me at the
E-mail address or call me at 201-437-9302 thats my home number You will always be my #1
man PeeWee man I miss you call me I have so much to talk to you about Yours truly Flenzy
Robinson aka flimflam ha ha
- Username:
- bossmon
- Date:
- 5/3/04
- Time:
- 10:58:11 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
street baller r one of a kind baller
- Username:
- Justin Thomas
- Date:
- 5/10/04
- Time:
- 6:21:51 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
This used to make me so mad when the announcers would say derogatory-type comments
about street ball. Now I understand why. They aren't degrading Pee Wee Kirkland, Billy
"The Kid" Harris, Fly Williams, and guys like that. Those are playground legends
who also did it on the hardwood. Those guys had skills and knew how to play. The guys they
are talking about is these guys who dunk and throw their jersey in the crowd and think
they are a legend. That is who I believe they are talking bad about. Those guys, And 1
players, constantly talk about how they bust NBA players or they could do this or that.
Well NBA teams are drafting high school players with no experience and some who dont even
play and dont even look at the "legends" haha for a reason. They simply cannot
play basketball. Pee Wee and them, they played basetball, they just played it on the
blacktop. I honestly think it is more degrading to the REAL streetball legends to hear the
guys today call THEMSELVES legends when they just got a name after 2 games in one park.
RIP GOAT.
- Username:
- Dominique Reed
- Date:
- 5/11/04
- Time:
- 11:32:58 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
It was good!!
- Username:
- Mike
- Date:
- 5/21/04
- Time:
- 3:48:12 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
Well more than likely there not from that side of the spectrum. They tend to elaborate
on things that have nothing to do with Basket ball
- Username:
- Date:
- 7/8/04
- Time:
- 10:30:30 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
- Username:
- Date:
- 7/10/04
- Time:
- 9:44:01 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
because street ball is known to most people as a rough form of basketball with no
rules. Most people do not understand that many NBA players started playing ball at the
parks, constantly playing against players better than them. Street ball helps players more
than it hurts them.
- Username:
- ED (SUNDANCE) DAVIS
- Date:
- 7/15/04
- Time:
- 10:45:44 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
I believe that most NBA commentators associate streetball with poor decisions and a
lack of discipline. These are very negative traits that will hinder you on and off the
basketball court. Streetball players are stigmatized with having their priorities out of
order. They will play to impress the crowd rather than play to help the team win. They
will risk losing the game in order to gain individual recognition is how many people
perceive them. People with this mentality will not get a college education, will sell or
indulge in drugs and are high risk in any organized team structure. This preception
persists because the media is only interested in streetballers that fit this narrow mold.
I am a Harlem streetball legend that received a B.A. in Sociology from the University of
San Diego. I received a Masters Degree in Education from the City College of New York. I
was a Captain in the United States Army and received an Honorable Discharge. I am entering
my eighteenth year of teaching as a fully certified New York City school teacher. I have
given back to my community through involvement with our youth pushing for positive goals
and achievements. However, you will probably not hear about me because I do not fit the
mold that streetballers want to be perceived as.
- Username:
- Date:
- 7/24/04
- Time:
- 7:00:22 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
- Username:
- DON'T SLEEP
- Date:
- 7/25/04
- Time:
- 11:43:01 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
The establishment is always demonizing anything that won't bring them a dollar. Street
ball today is trendy because the Rucker games are aired a able sports cahnnel and they
promote advitisements by big name corporate companies.... hence the Rucker & EBC are
"A Good Thing", that will bring more money to the already rich.
- Username:
- DON'T SLEEP
- Date:
- 7/25/04
- Time:
- 11:45:32 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
The establishment is always demonizing anything that won't bring them a dollar. Street
ball today is trendy because the Rucker games are aired a able sports cahnnel and they
promote advitisements by big name corporate companies.... hence the Rucker & EBC are
"A Good Thing", that will bring more money to the already rich.
- Username:
- Bone Collector
- Date:
- 8/22/04
- Time:
- 3:23:44 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
I DONT KNOW Y THEY HATIN ON US STREETBALLERS CUZ IT JUST DOESNT MAKE SENSE. their in the game for money(NBA), and we(streetballers) are in the game for fun.
- Username:
- Tyrone Washington Junior
- Date:
- 9/1/04
- Time:
- 1:14:19 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
THe announcers disrepsect streetball because they haven't put into perspective the fact that streetball wasnt intended to have fundamentals as the basis of the game, contrary to the NBA. Streetball was the birthchild of egotism and flair, and pride, things in the hood that will take u out of it, which fundamentals can never do.
- Username:
- Mo (Downtown) Jackson
- Date:
- 9/1/04
- Time:
- 1:33:42 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
Being a former Harlem legend, I know the hardships and adversities that players go through being young and black in a place where the temptations of crime are overwhelming.
It is not surprising though why NBA commentators direct hate towards streetball, as they simply look at one side of it; players simply looking to do what will garner them the most recognition aka showing off. They do not though look at the side of it which is people working and struggling solely for a game which does not always return to them what they put in. And that is the true love for the game.
- Username:
- kevin
- Date:
- 9/21/04
- Time:
- 8:12:36 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
the only reason commentators refer to streetball in a derogatory way is because they never played streetball a day of thier lives also some of the most famous players has that streetball attitude towards the game and they play with that streetball mentallity to become the greatest player
- Username:
- Mike
- Date:
- 10/3/04
- Time:
- 2:50:07 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
well they look down on streetball because if you take a street legend like say AO or Hot Sauce and put them in the NBA they would get destroyed, if they play say paul pierce 1 on 1 the dribbing would be useless and you cant dunk every single time u get the ball, and you have to be able to make a shot
- Username:
- eric a.k.a edubdgreat
- Date:
- 10/11/04
- Time:
- 9:15:30 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
some people blow streetball way out of porportion i mean people just don't know the fundamentals all they want to do is just dribble and takes all the fun out of streetball.
Holla atcha boy edubdagreat ONE
- Username:
- Alex Wenger
- Date:
- 10/25/04
- Time:
- 10:51:42 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
Shawn Kemp,
I think you are a awsome famouse hoosier. I'm glad i picked you for a report.
- Username:
- Alex Wenger
- Date:
- 10/25/04
- Time:
- 10:53:24 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
Shawn Kemp,
I think you are a awesome famouse hoosier. I'm glad i picked you for a report.
- Username:
- Alex Wenger
- Date:
- 10/25/04
- Time:
- 10:54:51 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
tell juci jay to shut up
- Username:
- carol
- Date:
- 10/27/04
- Time:
- 12:04:55 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
Pee Wee made a lifestlye change and is giving back to the community. he is an advicate for nyc harlems children.
HI Pee Wee
- Username:
- Gerry miller
- Date:
- 10/30/04
- Time:
- 3:49:53 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
I know how to contact Pee Wee. What is your interest?
- Username:
- j.d.long s.r.
- Date:
- 11/23/04
- Time:
- 8:10:14 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
iam myself a streetball legend from spartanburg s.c. after i quit college street ball became my life playing in rec league games, streetball is pure basketball at it's best and 1 is a joke to streetball in general. thank u peace
- Username:
- j.d.long s.r.
- Date:
- 11/23/04
- Time:
- 8:11:41 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
iam myself a streetball legend from spartanburg s.c. after i quit college street ball became my life playing in rec league games, streetball is pure basketball at it's best and 1 is a joke to streetball in general. thank u peace
- Username:
- Date:
- 12/5/04
- Time:
- 12:11:11 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
hey stick,good to hear you're still around.we started all this stuff at milbank,hows brother lionel? I know buster's looking down and feeling real good about what god has done in your life, god has done me the same way,I'm sure its that way for alot of us off 117th,116th,115th..cook.
charlesmaryann@sbcglobal.net
- Username:
- cook
- Date:
- 12/5/04
- Time:
- 12:12:42 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
hey stick,good to hear you're still around.we started all this stuff at milbank,hows brother lionel? I know buster's looking down and feeling real good about what god has done in your life, god has done me the same way,I'm sure its that way for alot of us off 117th,116th,115th..cook.
charlesmaryann@sbcglobal.net
- Username:
- cook
- Date:
- 12/5/04
- Time:
- 12:14:10 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
hey stick,good to hear you're still around.we started all this stuff at milbank,hows brother lionel? I know buster's looking down and feeling real good about what god has done in your life, god has done me the same way,I'm sure its that way for alot of us off 117th,116th,115th..cook.
charlesmaryann@sbcglobal.net
- Username:
- ccok
- Date:
- 12/5/04
- Time:
- 12:23:52 AM
- Remote User:
Comments
hey syick good to see you're still arond,how's bro lionel?I know buster is looking down and smiling about how all his prayers for you and many others have been
answered. just think it all started at milbank god is working with those of us off 115,116,117 & 118th street
- Username:
- b. allen
- Date:
- 2/14/05
- Time:
- 4:22:05 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
pee wee kirkland was a very talanted and a very great basketball player and i with he could teach me some moves of my own so i can score 135 points like he did while playing street ball
- Username:
- Iceman
- Date:
- 4/4/05
- Time:
- 2:05:44 PM
- Remote User:
Comments
Some NBC commentators thank the game should always be played a certain way and no one person is bigger than the game. I feel the game is a player’s game with each person having his own unique style of playing the game. With everything in the world changing, you've got to be naive to think the game of basketball won't change.
